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	<title>Comments on: Mozy: Great, Until You Need to Restore</title>
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		<link>http://www.marginnotes.net/2009/03/19/mozy-great-until-you-need-to-restore/comment-page-1/#comment-1237</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t think that Carbonite is any better.

When something goes wrong with that, customer service likes to send you in a round robin of ridiculous requests — I guess in the hope that you just give up and go away.

It can take weeks to get even seemingly minor issues resolved as it takes so long for them to reply (often with nonsense).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t think that Carbonite is any better.</p>
<p>When something goes wrong with that, customer service likes to send you in a round robin of ridiculous requests — I guess in the hope that you just give up and go away.</p>
<p>It can take weeks to get even seemingly minor issues resolved as it takes so long for them to reply (often with nonsense).</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Vargas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all the reviews of online backup that I have read, almost nobody talks about the restore process.   Everybody should try backing up 20-30GB and seeing how easy it is to get it back correctly.   In my testing of several services, there&#039;s quite a range.  
Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all the reviews of online backup that I have read, almost nobody talks about the restore process.   Everybody should try backing up 20-30GB and seeing how easy it is to get it back correctly.   In my testing of several services, there&#8217;s quite a range.<br />
Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Sutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 23:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s what I was talking about. But in Macs, if you drag folder &quot;1&quot; into another location where another folder &quot;1&quot; exists, the dialog just asks if you want to replace folder 1 with folder 1. No option given about merging. 

Now, I&#039;m far from a Mac expert, so this might be a simple matter of changing a preference somewhere. But if it is, I can&#039;t find it -- and I&#039;m surprised Mozy tech support wouldn&#039;t know about it, since I can only imagine that every single Mac user must raise a stink about this every time they try to restore...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#8217;s what I was talking about. But in Macs, if you drag folder &#8220;1&#8243; into another location where another folder &#8220;1&#8243; exists, the dialog just asks if you want to replace folder 1 with folder 1. No option given about merging. </p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m far from a Mac expert, so this might be a simple matter of changing a preference somewhere. But if it is, I can&#8217;t find it &#8212; and I&#8217;m surprised Mozy tech support wouldn&#8217;t know about it, since I can only imagine that every single Mac user must raise a stink about this every time they try to restore&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Richi Jennings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richi Jennings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In windows it&#039;s incredibly simple, and I&#039;m naively assuming it&#039;s the same in the Mac Finder.

Say the restore generates three archives that each contain part of a tree of files, that are all under a top-level folder called &quot;C&quot;...

If you unpack each archive into a different place, it will create three C folders. You should be able to drag all three into one single place. 

At this point, Windows will ask you if you want to merge the folders. Say yes and job&#039;s done.

I&#039;m assuming that it&#039;ll be called something other than &quot;C&quot; in MacOS, but you get the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In windows it&#8217;s incredibly simple, and I&#8217;m naively assuming it&#8217;s the same in the Mac Finder.</p>
<p>Say the restore generates three archives that each contain part of a tree of files, that are all under a top-level folder called &#8220;C&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>If you unpack each archive into a different place, it will create three C folders. You should be able to drag all three into one single place. </p>
<p>At this point, Windows will ask you if you want to merge the folders. Say yes and job&#8217;s done.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming that it&#8217;ll be called something other than &#8220;C&#8221; in MacOS, but you get the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Sutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Richi. Yes, &quot;merging&quot; is what I need, and I&#039;m really surprised it doesn&#039;t seem to be a built-in option in a Mac. I&#039;m not sure, but I seem to remember PCs offering some sort of option where, when putting two identically named files in the same spot, they would be merged but only identically named files would be overwritten. This wouldn&#039;t solve the problem I&#039;m having entirely, but it would make it a lot easier, I think.

Looking around now, I do see various Mac apps available online that would let me &quot;compare and merge&quot; files, but most seem to cost money. Maybe I should ask Mozy to buy me one...

As for client restore, in the interest of brevity I cut out my discussion of how that went. Namely, the client restore wouldn&#039;t show me all of my files, even when I selected the &quot;all files&quot; version. At first, I thought I had solved this when I went back a version or two and found what looked like everything. But as many accounts online relate, restoring by this process eventually froze and I had to try to start over. When I did, I could no longer see all of my files again, even if I went back to the exact same version that had had all of them before. VERY queasiness-inducing... When I asked tech support, they told me to do a web restore, even though the Mozy site says the client restore is the preferred option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Richi. Yes, &#8220;merging&#8221; is what I need, and I&#8217;m really surprised it doesn&#8217;t seem to be a built-in option in a Mac. I&#8217;m not sure, but I seem to remember PCs offering some sort of option where, when putting two identically named files in the same spot, they would be merged but only identically named files would be overwritten. This wouldn&#8217;t solve the problem I&#8217;m having entirely, but it would make it a lot easier, I think.</p>
<p>Looking around now, I do see various Mac apps available online that would let me &#8220;compare and merge&#8221; files, but most seem to cost money. Maybe I should ask Mozy to buy me one&#8230;</p>
<p>As for client restore, in the interest of brevity I cut out my discussion of how that went. Namely, the client restore wouldn&#8217;t show me all of my files, even when I selected the &#8220;all files&#8221; version. At first, I thought I had solved this when I went back a version or two and found what looked like everything. But as many accounts online relate, restoring by this process eventually froze and I had to try to start over. When I did, I could no longer see all of my files again, even if I went back to the exact same version that had had all of them before. VERY queasiness-inducing&#8230; When I asked tech support, they told me to do a web restore, even though the Mozy site says the client restore is the preferred option.</p>
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		<title>By: Richi Jennings</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richi Jennings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Mozy user -- albeit on Windows -- I read your post with some alarm. 

Mozy had some serious issues last year -- growing pains, I think. These caused me to angrily cancel my two-year account, demanding and getting a full refund.

However, after having tried countless competitive services, I was persuaded to come back to Mozy, partly via public &lt;i&gt;mea culpae&lt;/i&gt; from Mozy employees. The story was that the issues had been solved and everything now works as it should.

So far so good. and, yes, I&#039;ve done some extensive recovery testing.

Anyway, so i read your blog post again, and it struck me that your issue seems to come from an inability to &quot;merge&quot; several partial restores. When you do a large Mozy web restore, the files are distributed &quot;randomly&quot; across the various archive files.

Once you&#039;ve downloaded them, you would normally want to merge the contents of the archive files into one, coherent tree.

Of course, this tweakery is only necessary if you choose to do a Web restore (as opposed to a client restore). Sadly, I often hear people complain that the client restore doesn&#039;t always work reliably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Mozy user &#8212; albeit on Windows &#8212; I read your post with some alarm. </p>
<p>Mozy had some serious issues last year &#8212; growing pains, I think. These caused me to angrily cancel my two-year account, demanding and getting a full refund.</p>
<p>However, after having tried countless competitive services, I was persuaded to come back to Mozy, partly via public <i>mea culpae</i> from Mozy employees. The story was that the issues had been solved and everything now works as it should.</p>
<p>So far so good. and, yes, I&#8217;ve done some extensive recovery testing.</p>
<p>Anyway, so i read your blog post again, and it struck me that your issue seems to come from an inability to &#8220;merge&#8221; several partial restores. When you do a large Mozy web restore, the files are distributed &#8220;randomly&#8221; across the various archive files.</p>
<p>Once you&#8217;ve downloaded them, you would normally want to merge the contents of the archive files into one, coherent tree.</p>
<p>Of course, this tweakery is only necessary if you choose to do a Web restore (as opposed to a client restore). Sadly, I often hear people complain that the client restore doesn&#8217;t always work reliably.</p>
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